As y'all know, it is illegal under the Canadian communist medical laws to pay for medical procedures within their borders. This begs the question, where will the hordes of Canadians go to have life saving operations once the U.S. Falls to the ravages of socialism?
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When I was 20 - 22 years old... (memory a blur now)
I dated a wahine from Surrey, Canada that was best friends with the Canadian Premier (Vanzantedn (sp?)or something like that) back in the late 80's...
Any rate... I somehow ended up at a party at the Premier of Canada's house and it was all these rich Canadian Kids...
When it was found out that I was an "American" at the party invited by a Canadian... trouble started to brew.
By the end of the night... I was escorted off the property because supposedly I wasn't welcome... (Canadian Vs. American tensions were high where I lived.... and me dating the Canadian girl didn't help things as she was well known as well)
Pfft... politics... can spoil everything at times... I still to this day can claim that I did something not many other Canadian Teens can ever lay claim too...
I'll just leave it at that... LOL...
Fun times as an American kid living across from the Canada Capitol!
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Good catch Greg, but we have several friends in Canada (England too) who pay for upgraded private doctors, so I don't think that is against the law. I think that the problem is when you want surgery, all of the hospitals are owned by the government. Except their plastic surgery clinics of course, those people do pay for too.
As y'all know, it is illegal under the Canadian communist medical laws to pay for medical procedures within their borders. This begs the question, where will the hordes of Canadians go to have life saving operations once the U.S. Falls to the ravages of socialism?
Originally posted by G_Komohana - 02/02/2010 : 05:41:52 AM
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I can confirm that in the UK there is a national health system and believe it or not, a private health care system as well which you're free to buy insurance for. Believe it or not, you're free to pay for medical treatment outside the country as well. Shock horror.
The great thing about the system is that you get treated no matter what and don't risk losing your house if you become ill or are run over by a bus.
There are private and public hospitals in the UK. Frankly, some of the best ones are the public hospitals that are associated with universities.
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If the average is 18 weeks then just know that some folks have to wait longer and die waiting. There are companies in Canada that specialize in flying patients to the US to get life saving operations and tests like, MRIs.
What is telling is, you can get an MRI and surgery for your dog or cat almost instantly. Vets charge way less than doctors do for the same procedures. That is because people pay cash for pet care and there is no law against private pet care in Canada.
Also know that if you have a major problem in a country with socialist care you are less likely to survive than if you where in the US. Fact No. 1: Americans have better survival rates than Europeans for common cancers. [1] Breast cancer mortality is 52 percent higher in Germany than in the United States, and 88 percent higher in the United Kingdom. Prostate cancer mortality is 604 percent higher in the U.K. and 457 percent higher in Norway. The mortality rate for colorectal cancer among British men and women is about 40 percent higher. Fact No. 2: Americans have lower cancer mortality rates than Canadians. [2] Breast cancer mortality is 9 percent higher, prostate cancer is 184 percent higher and colon cancer mortality among men is about 10 percent higher than in the United States. Fact No. 3: Americans have better access to treatment for chronic diseases than patients in other developed countries. [3] Some 56 percent of Americans who could benefit are taking statins, which reduce cholesterol and protect against heart disease. By comparison, of those patients who could benefit from these drugs, only 36 percent of the Dutch, 29 percent of the Swiss, 26 percent of Germans, 23 percent of Britons and 17 percent of Italians receive them. Fact No. 4: Americans have better access to preventive cancer screening than Canadians.[4] Take the proportion of the appropriate-age population groups who have received recommended tests for breast, cervical, prostate and colon cancer: Nine of 10 middle-aged American women (89 percent) have had a mammogram, compared to less than three-fourths of Canadians (72 percent). Nearly all American women (96 percent) have had a pap smear, compared to less than 90 percent of Canadians . More than half of American men (54 percent) have had a PSA test, compared to less than 1 in 6 Canadians (16 percent). Nearly one-third of Americans (30 percent) have had a colonoscopy, compared with less than 1 in 20 Canadians (5 percent). Fact No. 5: Lower income Americans are in better health than comparable Canadians. Twice as many American seniors with below-median incomes self-report "excellent" health compared to Canadian seniors (11.7 percent versus 5.8 percent). Conversely, white Canadian young adults with below- median incomes are 20 percent more likely than lower income Americans to describe their health as "fair or poor."[5] Fact No. 6: Americans spend less time waiting for care than patients in Canada and the U.K. Canadian and British patients wait about twice as long - sometimes more than a year - to see a specialist, to have elective surgery like hip replacements or to get radiation treatment for cancer. [6] All told, 827,429 people are waiting for some type of procedure in Canada.[7] In England, nearly 1.8 million people are waiting for a hospital admission or outpatient treatment. Fact No. 7: People in countries with more government control of health care are highly dissatisfied and believe reform is needed. More than 70 percent of German, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand and British adults say their health system needs either "fundamental change" or "complete rebuilding." [9] Fact No. 8: Americans are more satisfied with the care they receive than Canadians. When asked about their own health care instead of the "health care system," more than half of Americans (51.3 percent) are very satisfied with their health care services, compared to only 41.5 percent of Canadians; a lower proportion of Americans are dissatisfied (6.8 percent) than Canadians (8.5 percent).[10] Fact No. 9: Americans have much better access to important new technologies like medical imaging than patients in Canada or the U.K. Maligned as a waste by economists and policymakers naïve to actual medical practice, an overwhelming majority of leading American physicians identified computerized tomography (CT) and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) as the most important medical innovations for improving patient care during the previous decade. [11] [See the table.] The United States has 34 CT scanners per million Americans, compared to 12 in Canada and eight in Britain. The United States has nearly 27 MRI machines per million compared to about 6 per million in Canada and Britain. [12] Fact No. 10: Americans are responsible for the vast majority of all health care innovations. [13] The top five U.S. hospitals conduct more clinical trials than all the hospitals in any other single developed country. [14] Since the mid-1970s, the Nobel Prize in medicine or physiology has gone to American residents more often than recipients from all other countries combined. [15] In only five of the past 34 years did a scientist living in America not win or share in the prize. Most important recent medical innovations were developed in the United States.
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